There are a number of variables that we could consider when these programs were created, and how they have evolved over-time; the bottom line is, "economically", they have created great amounts of un-funded liabilities to our system, and they are simply not going to be able to be sustained.

I had someone recently try to get me with the same ridiculous argument:

How can you be Christian and saying such things?

The Bible is clear: Matthew 22:21

"…Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's."

God, clearly has given us heavenly laws, however, God also gave mankind the ability to institute laws that govern their own lands here on Earth. Our founders were very much men of faith and have created our laws with a strong faith in God. God has given us free-will, and with a praise from God, our founders have given us the freedom to make many choices in our own lives. The Bible is also clear about tithing, which is also given through free-will.

The United States has always been a very charitable nation; and through charity, we will always be able to "help" lift up those "truly" in need, while "not sacrificing" the well-being of an entire nation's economy. Therefore, I would make the counter-argument, and ask those people, which is better: to help those in need, through charity, or allow an entire nation to go bankrupt? At which time, we will all suffer and have nothing to help anyone with, while creating a tremendous national-security threat to our "entire" nation.

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And this is why we need to arm ourselves with facts: because those who do not have, or care about facts, will often try to play on your emotions, and try to somehow guilt you into seeing it their way. Also, isn't it ironic how many liberals so often want to remind people to separate church from state?

There are also those who do not take the time to learn the historical facts, and what our founders intended through our founding documents; and just want to call things as they see it. While this group of people may be well-intended, their arguments are often based on hypotheticals, or they just resort to blaming past administrations for all of our problems.

To be honest, I am really not going to expend too much more energy debating with people who refuse to do the necessary research. While laws are created through intellectual debate and political theory, we simply can not ignore history and certain realities.

I think I will write a follow up to Glenn Beck's book "Arguing with Idiots", and call it, "Arguing with The Uninformed". shewwwww

Now-a-days, everybody feels "entitled". Many believe it is the federal government's responsibility to take of the people.  It is not their responsibility.

And if I hear another progressive liberal spout off about how un-Christ like us Christians are being by denying people health insurance and entitlements, I think I'm going to scream!  Enabling people is not Christ-like. Christ expected people to work hard.  We need to be working on de-flating the economy so decent 3 bedroom, 1 or 2 bath houses don't cost $100,000 to buy.

Oh well, enough venting. Gotta go to Bible study.

Amazing isn't it? Our founders, and their great wisdom is speaking to us from the grave.

What better interpretation to our Constitution then from The father of our Constitution himself?

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Yep, quasi-Socialism, in The United States, likely started on August 14, 1935, when Franklin Roosevelt signed Social Security into law; and The Sixteenth Amendment (1913) certainly gave the the federal government the means to the end.

The irony is, programs like Medicare and Social Security have ultimately done the opposite, and have now caused Social "Insecurity" for our economy and for the next few generations of retirees.